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		<title>By: hiutopor</title>
		<link>http://www.4weekstofit.com/2007/06/23/sleep-diet-workout/after-photos-and-conclusions/#comment-42</link>
		<author>hiutopor</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2007 09:58:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello 
 
Very interesting information! Thanks! 
 
Bye</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello </p>
<p>Very interesting information! Thanks! </p>
<p>Bye</p>
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		<title>By: OneOfEm</title>
		<link>http://www.4weekstofit.com/2007/06/23/sleep-diet-workout/after-photos-and-conclusions/#comment-39</link>
		<author>OneOfEm</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 18:43:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've been following his plan for a couple of weeks, and my results have been impressive so far, if not as visible as his.

First, I'm still in fat-loss mode, so I'm probably not eating enough for huge gains.  Also, since I still have a bit of "padding,"  The muscle is hidden.  Finally, I'm a bit taller than Tim (it looks like you are, too), so while there are gains, it will take much longer for them to be as obvious as his.

On the other hand, I worked out for a few years back in the mid 80's, so I might still have some muscle memory - I can tell that I'm making good progress even if it's not visible to anyone else yet.  Also, my strength is climbing much faster than it ever did with traditional workouts, and I'm increasing my flexibility.

Like you, I feel great.

Overall, I'm very happy with my results.  I have to think that for those of you who have minimal results, it's more due to physiology than anything else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been following his plan for a couple of weeks, and my results have been impressive so far, if not as visible as his.</p>
<p>First, I&#8217;m still in fat-loss mode, so I&#8217;m probably not eating enough for huge gains.  Also, since I still have a bit of &#8220;padding,&#8221;  The muscle is hidden.  Finally, I&#8217;m a bit taller than Tim (it looks like you are, too), so while there are gains, it will take much longer for them to be as obvious as his.</p>
<p>On the other hand, I worked out for a few years back in the mid 80&#8217;s, so I might still have some muscle memory - I can tell that I&#8217;m making good progress even if it&#8217;s not visible to anyone else yet.  Also, my strength is climbing much faster than it ever did with traditional workouts, and I&#8217;m increasing my flexibility.</p>
<p>Like you, I feel great.</p>
<p>Overall, I&#8217;m very happy with my results.  I have to think that for those of you who have minimal results, it&#8217;s more due to physiology than anything else.</p>
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		<title>By: jeremy</title>
		<link>http://www.4weekstofit.com/2007/06/23/sleep-diet-workout/after-photos-and-conclusions/#comment-28</link>
		<author>jeremy</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2007 01:57:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you might want to lay off the soy in your diet, the pseudo-estrogens might be knocking your testosterone growth factors down.  you should have the casein from real whole milk, not 2% anyway, because the fats in the milk will help you with the fat soluable vitamins that you need to grow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you might want to lay off the soy in your diet, the pseudo-estrogens might be knocking your testosterone growth factors down.  you should have the casein from real whole milk, not 2% anyway, because the fats in the milk will help you with the fat soluable vitamins that you need to grow.</p>
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		<title>By: ChrisH</title>
		<link>http://www.4weekstofit.com/2007/06/23/sleep-diet-workout/after-photos-and-conclusions/#comment-27</link>
		<author>ChrisH</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jul 2007 23:26:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>congrats on sticking to it for 30days.  you do look better.  But it's funny when you compare it to Feriss's claims.  He has some good tips but is kind of full of shit to post those pictures of himself and claim he has the recipe for everyone to experience the same transformation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>congrats on sticking to it for 30days.  you do look better.  But it&#8217;s funny when you compare it to Feriss&#8217;s claims.  He has some good tips but is kind of full of shit to post those pictures of himself and claim he has the recipe for everyone to experience the same transformation.</p>
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		<title>By: Four Week Challenge #01: Rapid Muscle Growth, Final Post &#124; MensImprovement.com</title>
		<link>http://www.4weekstofit.com/2007/06/23/sleep-diet-workout/after-photos-and-conclusions/#comment-25</link>
		<author>Four Week Challenge #01: Rapid Muscle Growth, Final Post &#124; MensImprovement.com</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2007 02:56:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] also seen that with greater amounts of protein, I can gain muscle mass. Others seem to be reporting similar [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] also seen that with greater amounts of protein, I can gain muscle mass. Others seem to be reporting similar [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://www.4weekstofit.com/2007/06/23/sleep-diet-workout/after-photos-and-conclusions/#comment-24</link>
		<author>Sam</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 19:33:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can definitely see a difference. Congrats!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can definitely see a difference. Congrats!</p>
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		<title>By: Me</title>
		<link>http://www.4weekstofit.com/2007/06/23/sleep-diet-workout/after-photos-and-conclusions/#comment-23</link>
		<author>Me</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 18:57:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read in a nutrition paper that an athlete needs about 1.3 grams of protein per kilogram of body weight. In fact, as you get stronger your body gets more efficient and requires a bit less protein. All the extra protein you eat is excreted out. If you aim for 1.5g/kg, then you weigh ~86kg and need 130g protein. A normal diet plus supplement should do it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read in a nutrition paper that an athlete needs about 1.3 grams of protein per kilogram of body weight. In fact, as you get stronger your body gets more efficient and requires a bit less protein. All the extra protein you eat is excreted out. If you aim for 1.5g/kg, then you weigh ~86kg and need 130g protein. A normal diet plus supplement should do it.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.4weekstofit.com/2007/06/23/sleep-diet-workout/after-photos-and-conclusions/#comment-22</link>
		<author>Anonymous</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 17:46:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hi Everyone,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&#160;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanks for your comments!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&#160;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;James:&lt;/strong&gt; I was actually thinking that I may have been giving myself too much recover time. Although I was working out 3 days a week, I  would only be hitting each muscle group once every 7 days. For example, I would only do chest on Monday. I have been thinking about switching to a two full body workouts instead. I think I may actually have better results with less workouts.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&#160;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Meta:&lt;/strong&gt; Thanks! I did make some physical gains and as you point out I definitely made some confidence gains as well. I feel great about being able to stick to this program for 30 days, and I am going to work even harder now. I will be working out 5 to 6 times a week with morning cardio on the days when I do not weight train.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&#160;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Joe:&lt;/strong&gt; Haha! That's what I was thinking. I'll try it for my 60 days photo shoot.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&#160;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Harold:&lt;/strong&gt; You are right about protein intake. I was trying to to eat around 200g of protein per day, and if you check my daily food logs you will see that for the most part I did pretty well. My breakfast actually has 34grams of protein - 16g in the cottage cheese, 9g in the soy milk, and 9g in the cereal (surprising I know, but that optimum slim cereal is absolutely amazing). Also, I am eating 5 to 6 times per day. Perhaps I was a little light on calories though. I need to do some more research in this area.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&#160;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Cory:&lt;/strong&gt; Yes, 5-5 cadence. I work out with a partner and we count on our watches for each other. Check out my training page.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&#160;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Here's the thing. I think Tim had muscle memory in his favour, and I think that my ectomorphic body type makes it slower for me to make gains. No worries. I'll keep at it, and the results will come. With the added cardio and adjusted diet (after some more research) I suspect my 60 day photos will show more significant changes.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Everyone,</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Thanks for your comments!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>James:</strong> I was actually thinking that I may have been giving myself too much recover time. Although I was working out 3 days a week, I  would only be hitting each muscle group once every 7 days. For example, I would only do chest on Monday. I have been thinking about switching to a two full body workouts instead. I think I may actually have better results with less workouts.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Meta:</strong> Thanks! I did make some physical gains and as you point out I definitely made some confidence gains as well. I feel great about being able to stick to this program for 30 days, and I am going to work even harder now. I will be working out 5 to 6 times a week with morning cardio on the days when I do not weight train.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Joe:</strong> Haha! That&#8217;s what I was thinking. I&#8217;ll try it for my 60 days photo shoot.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Harold:</strong> You are right about protein intake. I was trying to to eat around 200g of protein per day, and if you check my daily food logs you will see that for the most part I did pretty well. My breakfast actually has 34grams of protein - 16g in the cottage cheese, 9g in the soy milk, and 9g in the cereal (surprising I know, but that optimum slim cereal is absolutely amazing). Also, I am eating 5 to 6 times per day. Perhaps I was a little light on calories though. I need to do some more research in this area.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Cory:</strong> Yes, 5-5 cadence. I work out with a partner and we count on our watches for each other. Check out my training page.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the thing. I think Tim had muscle memory in his favour, and I think that my ectomorphic body type makes it slower for me to make gains. No worries. I&#8217;ll keep at it, and the results will come. With the added cardio and adjusted diet (after some more research) I suspect my 60 day photos will show more significant changes.</p>
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		<title>By: Cory</title>
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		<author>Cory</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 10:46:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your upper back looks a bit better. I'm doing the diet but not as strict. I'm gaining quite a bit of muscle on my chest and shoulders. Did you do 5 - 5 cadence for the exercises? That might be why it didn't work so well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your upper back looks a bit better. I&#8217;m doing the diet but not as strict. I&#8217;m gaining quite a bit of muscle on my chest and shoulders. Did you do 5 - 5 cadence for the exercises? That might be why it didn&#8217;t work so well.</p>
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		<title>By: Harold</title>
		<link>http://www.4weekstofit.com/2007/06/23/sleep-diet-workout/after-photos-and-conclusions/#comment-20</link>
		<author>Harold</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2007 14:07:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While your diet was a healthy one, I don't think that it was condusive to gaining mass.  I have been doing alot of reading online in reguards to weight lifting and weight gain, and a common thread is getting alot of calories, with a good protien and carb mix.  Your breakfast seems like it lacked even what Tim recommended in regards to protein intake for example.

I followed the workout Tim posted, and I loosely followed the diet, but made sure I had 20g or more of protein at each meal(most weight training sources I looked at recommended 30-50g per meal, while having 4 large meals a day), I tried to hit the 30g - 40g's  as often as possible.  

Several sources recommend 1g of protien for each pound of body wieght.  I was ~195lbs when I started, and I would say I took in around 160g - 200 grams a day.  

Like you, most of my gains were ones that I feel more than I see, but I think my gains are slightly more noticable than the ones in your pictures.  Right now i am 205lbs and i can see some muscle growth but I did not notice that much fat loss(there is possibly some minor fat gain as i was not strictly following the diet).

I wouldn't doubt that muscle memory also had alot to do with tim's gains, but I also think you may have had better results if you were eating alittle more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While your diet was a healthy one, I don&#8217;t think that it was condusive to gaining mass.  I have been doing alot of reading online in reguards to weight lifting and weight gain, and a common thread is getting alot of calories, with a good protien and carb mix.  Your breakfast seems like it lacked even what Tim recommended in regards to protein intake for example.</p>
<p>I followed the workout Tim posted, and I loosely followed the diet, but made sure I had 20g or more of protein at each meal(most weight training sources I looked at recommended 30-50g per meal, while having 4 large meals a day), I tried to hit the 30g - 40g&#8217;s  as often as possible.  </p>
<p>Several sources recommend 1g of protien for each pound of body wieght.  I was ~195lbs when I started, and I would say I took in around 160g - 200 grams a day.  </p>
<p>Like you, most of my gains were ones that I feel more than I see, but I think my gains are slightly more noticable than the ones in your pictures.  Right now i am 205lbs and i can see some muscle growth but I did not notice that much fat loss(there is possibly some minor fat gain as i was not strictly following the diet).</p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t doubt that muscle memory also had alot to do with tim&#8217;s gains, but I also think you may have had better results if you were eating alittle more.</p>
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